10-25-14 - Cindy Derby is Marian Derby's granddaughter, an artist and puppeteer. Here's her site, Cindy Derby dot com. And here's a page on it for something I didn't know about Marian - Marian Derby's puppet days.

That's Marian bottom left.

Cindy writes:

    I have had the wonderful opportunity to learn about my grandmother's puppeteer days through letters we wrote back and forth a few years back. She enclosed old photographs of her performing, and even one of her and Frank Oz in her earlier days at the Children's Fairyland Puppet Fair- the first major event hosted by the San Francisco Puppeteers Guild of America.
    This is a photo of her performing Punch & Judy at a children's hospital with a cast of about a dozen characters- including a paraquet trained to sit on the pirates puppets shoulder!

 - thanks Steve Meek for sending this info and link

10-26-14 - Another photo of Marian Derby Wisberg doing her Punch and Judy puppet show 1954 in San Francisco.

Marian contributed to Ananda Claude Dalenberg's Cloud Hidden Friends and other newsletters. Someday maybe have an index to link to specific ones. There's one in Alan Watts commemorative Issue #29 that is referred to here. Searching for "marian" on cuke's site search on the Home or What's New page will reveal many pages Marian.

10-06-14 -  Some early pages of Snail Zen by Marian Derby - in Group I  of 2013 Scans from Cuke Archives

Marian wrote that she'd send me a copy of the book when it was finished but I didn't get what she sent to a few people. Trying to get a copy of it. - DC

9-30-14 - Long letter from Marian Derby Wisberg to DC date August 5, 2008.

7-14-13 - My friendship with Marian Derby Wisberg by Fran Thompson

Massive correspondence between Fran and Marian is now in the cuke archives - too much to process and post though someone else can do it later. - DC

6-05-13 - Three documents from Marian Derby Wisberg sent us seven years ago.

* a letter on the Los Altos Suzuki lecture tapes
* an article titled Beginner's Mind
* an article titled A Report on the Peninsula Branch of the San Francisco Zen Center.

8-02-14 - Marian Derby letter to DC explaining what she thinks the source of the box of Shunryu Suzuki Los Altos Lecture transcripts with editing marks that ended up in the SFZC library closet - all of which now are in lecture archive on shunryusuzuki.com. - - in Group I  of 2013 Scans from Cuke Archives

Posting on the cuke lecture and quote page and The earliest apparently verbatim lectures from Los Altos pages. Tons of posts and info sort of confusing needs to be reorganized especially in light of what is known now. Also need to do corrections of info in Crooked Cucumber and even the more recent Afterward to the 40th edition of ZMBM.

ZMBM page which has a useful chart and links to source lectures

10-18-14 - Christmas card from Marian Derby and Jack Wisberg - undated but I'd say ten years ago or so - the lack of scan of the other side makes me wonder if it was blank. - dc

8-16-14 - Have been corresponding with Joel Weishaus about Marian Derby Wisberg whom he met at Tassajara in 1969. - DC

6-04-13 - Here's another photo with Marian in it [the top one] but you can't see her face.

6-03-13 - Here's the only photo I've found so far of Marian Derby Wisberg (Mountain) who recently passed on. It's from the archive of photos in Shunryu Suzuki dot com. She's the third from the right on the 2nd row. Could have missed some others with her. Will look further. Will find more. Much work to do on photos and naming. - dc

Here's another photo with Marian in it but you can't see her face. She's second from the left.

Didn't get it at first because I'd spelled Marian's name as "Marion." Spent a half hour fixing other places where I'd done that. Now even more mentions of Marian will come up if one does a site search - though it may take a few days for the search engines to have those corrections. - dc